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	<title>Comments on: flash cookie awareness campaign</title>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2005 02:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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Hiya John! Thanks for this information. And on the weekend too.

I appreciate the &#039;different browsers use different extensions&#039; point you make. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of whether the Flash Player extensions all shared the same local object settings. While this &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; be the case in a win-IE-FireFox setting (for example), from you comments I take it that cannot necessarily be extrapolated across all OS, browser, Flash Player configurations? 

To tell you the truth I&#039;m not sure where the 4KB originally got stuck in my mind. Google turned up this older article on shared objects in Flash MX which seems to imply it:
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya John! Thanks for this information. And on the weekend too.</p>
<p>I appreciate the &#8216;different browsers use different extensions&#8217; point you make. I guess I was thinking more along the lines of whether the Flash Player extensions all shared the same local object settings. While this <em>can</em> be the case in a win-IE-FireFox setting (for example), from you comments I take it that cannot necessarily be extrapolated across all OS, browser, Flash Player configurations? </p>
<p>To tell you the truth I&#8217;m not sure where the 4KB originally got stuck in my mind. Google turned up this older article on shared objects in Flash MX which seems to imply it:<br />
<a href="http://uk.builder.com/webdevelopment/design/0,39026630,20278036,00.htm" rel="nofollow">http://uk.builder.com/webdevelopment/design/0,39026630,20278036,00.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2005 23:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Are the Flash Player settings machine (as opposed to browser) specific?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Depends ont he browser. IE/Win uses system-level ActiveX Controls, and so any variant browser (NeoPlanet, eg) will use the same system-level extension.

Modern Macintosh operating systems also use system-level browser extensions, but I&#039;m not sure which browsers use these shared resources and which use the traditional local &quot;plugins&quot; folder.

(Rephrased, some browsers share extensions, and some do not, and I don&#039;t know that anyone has collected together the documentation for each browser version on this characteristic.)

I&#039;m not sure where the &quot;4 KB&quot; figure came from... maybe this is &quot;What constraints do various browser have on cookie size?&quot; If so, then this is another cross-browser feature which I haven&#039;t seen documented (across brands) before.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Are the browser cookie file format(s) published? How about Flash Player local objects?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

These are the same thing, though...?

I don&#039;t think the local storage format has ever formally been written up, because this isn&#039;t intended as a data-exchange format. A few years ago these were stored in domain-specific directories, in plaintext name/value pairs, but the ability to write arbitrary strings to a predictable disk directory address could conceivably have been used to nefarious effect, and so the data and filenames were hashed up a few years ago, and are not as human-readable as before.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Are the Flash Player settings machine (as opposed to browser) specific?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Depends ont he browser. IE/Win uses system-level ActiveX Controls, and so any variant browser (NeoPlanet, eg) will use the same system-level extension.</p>
<p>Modern Macintosh operating systems also use system-level browser extensions, but I&#8217;m not sure which browsers use these shared resources and which use the traditional local &#8220;plugins&#8221; folder.</p>
<p>(Rephrased, some browsers share extensions, and some do not, and I don&#8217;t know that anyone has collected together the documentation for each browser version on this characteristic.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where the &#8220;4 KB&#8221; figure came from&#8230; maybe this is &#8220;What constraints do various browser have on cookie size?&#8221; If so, then this is another cross-browser feature which I haven&#8217;t seen documented (across brands) before.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Are the browser cookie file format(s) published? How about Flash Player local objects?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>These are the same thing, though&#8230;?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the local storage format has ever formally been written up, because this isn&#8217;t intended as a data-exchange format. A few years ago these were stored in domain-specific directories, in plaintext name/value pairs, but the ability to write arbitrary strings to a predictable disk directory address could conceivably have been used to nefarious effect, and so the data and filenames were hashed up a few years ago, and are not as human-readable as before.</p>
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